House health care bill wins 2 top backers

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Originally Posted by McGyver

(OH.......DON'T BOTHER, JIMV SAYS NANCY DOESN'T HAVE THE VOTES, SO YOU MAY AS WELL QUIT TRYING!)

He only knows what he has been told by the far right, and we all know how wrong they are.

[GUS]

Minnick, Simpson to vote no on health bill
The House measure will include a public option provision, which both congressmen oppose.
BY ERIKA BOLSTAD - ebolstad@idahostatesman.com
Copyright: © 2009 Idaho Statesman
Published: 11/07/09

WASHINGTON - A no vote comes as no surprise from Rep. Mike Simpson, who shares other Republicans' opposition. But Democratic Rep. Walt Minnick's vote was highly sought by House Democratic leaders.

"It's a very difficult vote for me, because I really want to vote for health care reform, but it has to be done right," Minnick told the Idaho Statesman on Friday.

All the top House Democrats have spoken to him about his vote, he said.

Democrats are scrambling to pull together the 218 votes they need to pass the bill. They hold 258 seats, but conservative Blue Dog Democrats like Minnick have proved difficult to corral.

Some other Democrats, too, have raised concerns about aspects of the legislation, including whether it allows illegal immigrants access to insurance coverage. Democrats cleared one impasse Friday night, saying abortion opponents will be given a chance to insert tougher abortion restrictions into the legislation during Saturday's debate.

The 10-year, $1.2 trillion House version would extend health insurance coverage to 36 million people. The bill would create a government-run health insurance plan - the so-called public option - that would compete with private insurers. It would prohibit insurers from denying coverage because of pre-existing conditions, and it would set up a marketplace - known as an exchange - to let consumers shop for coverage.

Both Simpson and Minnick have long said they won't vote for a bill that includes a public option. Minnick said Friday that he also is concerned the bill doesn't do enough to control costs.

But Minnick said Friday he hopes that the Senate version of the bill, which is considered more moderate, will be combined with the House version in a way he can support.

A vote is expected on Saturday - after President Barack Obama makes a late morning trip to the Capitol to make one final pitch for the legislation.

Erika Bolstad: (202) 383-6104 The Associated Press contributed

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"Both Simpson and Minnick have long said they won't vote for a bill that includes a public option. Minnick said Friday that he also is concerned the bill doesn't do enough to control costs."

Minnick is an idiot.
Doesn't he understand that the public option IS controlling the costs??

[JIMV]

Originally Posted by McGyver

(OH.......DON'T BOTHER, JIMV SAYS NANCY DOESN'T HAVE THE VOTES, SO YOU MAY AS WELL QUIT TRYING!)

I figure it is Win-Win for republicans...If we kill the scheme, the country wins..If the dems cram it through, we replace them next year, kill the mess, and the country wins again...

[JIMV]

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They are missing Minnick as a solid no.

[McGyver]

Originally Posted by JIMV

I figure it is Win-Win for republicans...If we kill the scheme, the country wins..If the dems cram it through, we replace them next year, kill the mess......

WOW....Do you REALLY believe that once The American people have Universal Health Care, they would ALLOW The Incompetent, Insurance Company Loving Republicans to take it away? You see how successful you've been at taking away Social Security and Medicare, don't ya?



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[McGyver]

Originally Posted by JIMV

http://campaignspot.nationalreview.c...BlMmVmYzBlZmY=

They are missing Minnick as a solid no.

I hate to be an "I Told You So" JimV, but as I said, Nancy Pelosi wasn't counting on Minnick, because she knew she didn't NEED Minnick!



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[kluwer]

Originally Posted by McGyver

WOW....Do you REALLY believe that once The American people have Universal Health Care, they would ALLOW The Incompetent, Insurance Company Loving Republicans to take it away? You see how successful you've been at taking away Social Security and Medicare, don't ya?



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The right believe that this will bring about a repeat of 1996.
That is how out of touch with reality they are.

[JIMV]

Originally Posted by McGyver

WOW....Do you REALLY believe that once The American people have Universal Health Care, they would ALLOW The Incompetent, Insurance Company Loving Republicans to take it away? You see how successful you've been at taking away Social Security and Medicare, don't ya?



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Americans do not want it, commies do...Now consider it is structured to take the tax money until 2014 and then some folk get bad care...

Yes, I do believe the large majority of folk will be VERY angry next year as the government steals their money and gives them little but promises. Heck, the majority is already angry.

[JIMV]

Originally Posted by McGyver

I hate to be an "I Told You So" JimV, but as I said, Nancy Pelosi wasn't counting on Minnick, because she knew she didn't NEED Minnick!



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Because she bought a few others...will those others hold when the abortion language is removed in conference? she only needs to lsoe 3 and the scam is dead...