Orcs Win Battle Against Elves, Dwarves, Humans, and Hobbits

[gooddoggy]

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My son controlled the orcs.

He whooped hobbit, elf, human and dwarf butt.

The table top was overspread with a green sheet with pillows under it for hills and a ruined castle set up. A blue washcloth served as a river with a remote control for a bridge.

Then we rolled dice and took shots at each other's army.

The battle turned for the worse when his orc archer killed my elven bowman.

This happened despite the fact that my elf had the power turn invisible at will and could move 3" per turn and had 7 hit points.

I found out that hobbits aren't any good at all to have in a battle, no matter what the movies say. They have only 4 hit points each and get killed way too easy.

He had only 2 orcs left when the smoke cleared, but they carried the day.

Just thought I'd post something important here since the board was getting cluttered up with alot of stuff about MCCain, Obama and Palin.

[freewolf46]

Certainly more interesting than the stale reprints in large bold letters, however, I have to ask if you are sure that the results of the battle are due to the capabilities of the orcs, elves, and little folk, or if the commanders are more suited to responsibility? lol.

[NuclearShadows]

Take heart Sage, It is just one battle. As we have learned (http://www.mythosandlogos.com/Campbell.html), even though the orks of the world seem powerful beyond our comprehension, you understand more than others that it is the lowly foot soldier that ultimately carries the day (http://christianity.about.com/od/biblestorysummaries/p/davidandgoliath.htm) and wins the war. (http://terpconnect.umd.edu/~sschreib/autumn_02/introductions/IRAposter.jpg) Next time drop your notions of how to win and move on to a new mindset. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fourth_generation_warfare)

http://parentalwisdom.files.wordpress.com/2007/10/david-and-goliath.png

[gooddoggy]

Freewolf--yes, I need to stick to my trade and realize I cannot successfully command elves and hobbits.

Nuke--- Campbell: I read his book, Hero With A Thousand Faces.

It was great. And he had alot of wonderful things to say.

However, it goes without saying I do not concur with his ultimate conclusions.

Christ actually does not fit the arch typical Hero myth unless one forces him in to it.

And Christianity is not simply another reincarnation of pagan religion.

But his analysis of mythology and the dream languages is superb.

He was smart man. If he was incorrect, though, that all means nothing now...

[NuclearShadows]

Christ actually does not fit the arch typical Hero myth unless one forces him in to it.

And Christianity is not simply another reincarnation of pagan religion.

Well Campbell was talking about the virgin birth thing. That mythology has been around in many culture for at least 5,000 years. Christians didn't have the corner on the market with that one...

And Christianity most certainly did co-op pagan symbolism, ritual and holidays as it marched across Europe. How can you say it didn't?

The Christian theologian Origen (http://ancienthistory.about.com/od/origen/g/Origen.htm) considered the most important theologian in the early church believe in reincarnation and so did many Christians until it was decided at the 2nd Council of Constantinople in 553 A.D that people would strive to act better if they thought they only had one life to attain salvation. So reincarnation was stricken as a tenet of Christian belief.

When I learned of this back when I was a engaged in Christian study is when I started to pull away from Christianity. Also at the same time I started trying to find out about the Knights Templar, spending many hours at the Boise Bible College, only to be frustrated and left with more questions than I began with.. Those two things were paramount in my personal transition away from that religion. It was then I began to see that I was being lied to about "the church". Just to keep my explanation simple.... :rolleyes:

An explanation that might suit you about Origen and reincarnation (http://www.saint-mike.org/Apologetics/QA/Answers/Church_History/h010801Sarah.html). I think it is a smoke screen used to deny that Christians believed in it.

[gooddoggy]

There is no counterpart in mythology to the virgin birth that I'm aware of, Nuke.

They all involve sex with gods and physical seed.

Nothing like Mary being overshadowed by the Holy Spirit, which had no sexual aspect at all.

Also, there is nothing like the Resurrection in myths predating Christianity.

Reincarnation-- yes.

Horus was Osiris reborn through the womb of Isis, etc.--there is no story I am aware of which has a person die and then come back to life, especially in Atonement, in the manner of Jesus Christ.

I've not yet read Origen, though I've desired to do so, and Ireneus as well.

But post apostolic authors, however helpful, did not produce the Gospel, so we do not judge Christianity by their writings.

As for mixture with heathenism, yes, that occurred in corrupted forms of Christian practice since the Day of Pentecost.

But I don't see where that casts a pagan pale on the faith.

The only Church histroy we should use in judging the Gospel itself is the Book of Acts.

[NuclearShadows]

AsI know that you will say that the "myths" I could easily produce are just that, myths, how about one myth about a real human being... Buddha.

Also there was Zoroaster who also was said to be born of a virgin.

Alexander the Great...

Greek, Hindu and Egyptian myths are full of such births.

But if parthenogenesis can happen in animals, why not humans?